Lina Khan is like the Simon Biles of the antitrust world, to give you a sense of who she is. Our conversation has been edited and condensed for clarity. The FTC hasn’t done that kind of regulation for decades now-but could Khan turn the agency around? And in the process, will she finally be able to bust up these humongous companies? On Tuesday’s episode of What Next, I spoke with Stoller about Lina Khan and the potential counterrevolution in antitrust enforcement. Stoller says that if he had his way, the FTC would be preventing businesses from getting so big that they distort the market and jack up prices-like what megacorporations including Amazon and Google and others have been accused of doing.

This is exciting for Matt Stoller, who’s a research director at the American Economic Liberties Project and advocates against monopolistic business practices.

Joe Biden’s pick for chair of the regulatory Federal Trade Commission was a slightly nontraditional one: a 32-year-old Pakistani American lawyer named Lina Khan who’s been described as a “antitrust rock star.” She has big ideas about how corporations wield their power, and why large companies-i.e., monopolies-especially in Big Tech have remained unregulated for so long.

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